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8/3/2010 6:12 PM
Thomas Forster
Joined: 8/1/2010
Posts: 1
Doesn not work wit GMAIL, Hotmail, etc.
(Switzerland)
This module does not work with GMAIL, Hotmail and most of the other public mail providers.
GMAIL and Hotmail don't even show messages sent with this module as spam, they immediatly drop the messages.
As an example: For the provider gmx.net the messages endup in spam with the (german) messge
"GMX Spamschutz
Spamserver-Blocker
: Diese E-Mail wurde nicht über den tatsächlichen Mailserver des Absenderdienstes eingeliefert. " which means in english: " .. this email was not sent by the mail server of the sender address."
Please add a new field in the config section so we can add a fixed "from-address" that matches the domain name of the smtp server that sends the message.
Most mail recivers these days will refuse messages from the postcard manager in its current state, which makes the module almost useless.
You can easaly check this on the Postcard Manager Demo site.
Regards
Thomas
8/4/2010 1:30 AM
DNN Module Support
Joined: 8/28/2006
Posts: 2065
Re: Doesn not work wit GMAIL, Hotmail, etc.
(Australia)
Thomas,
Thanks for your post and your concerns about this module. I know that spam filters are a most confusing issue for everyone (hopefully people who spam too).
The information in your post is not exactly accurate. To prove the point, I have attached a screen shot of an example email sent from our demo page on our website. This page sends email through our correctly configured primary mail server that we host.
As you can see, I have sent an email test to my own hotmail account, and I have sent the email to be "from" an invalid email address at user@domain.com
You will also notice that the message was not stopped or blocked by the hotmail spam servers.
The reason for this is that although the domain.com email address is not valid, our mail server is... and it has a correctly configured reverse lookup against the primary IP address of the mail server. This resolves to valid lookups etc.
Additionally on our domain, and FYI on domain.com there are no SPF records advising the hotmail servers to reject mail unless it is sent from one particular server.
The from address is not relevant for spam blocking, unless that from address is listed on a filter black list. It is always the IP address of the generating mail server and subsequent reverse lookup DNS tables that determine how trusted a mail server is.
Now while some people reading this might take exception to some of this information (because I have very much simplified the issue). I have also not discussed content rating, return path tracking, and bayesian analysis etc. There is no need to mention it because hotmail clearly allow content to be delivered from this module when sent from a correctly configured mail server.
But don't believe me. Run a test form our module demo site and see the result for yourself.
P.S. We originally had the module set to send all mail from the email address of the site Administrator or Host settings. This caused a lot of problems, because there are a lot of DNN administrators who never bother to configure a valid email address in either their host or admin settings.
I hope you find this useful.
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12/2/2010 2:37 PM
odove
Joined: 2/18/2010
Posts: 1
Re: Doesn not work wit GMAIL, Hotmail, etc.
(United States)
I have the same problem (does not work with hotmail, yahoo, etc...)
"Your card has been sent
...Mailbox name not allowed. The server response was: Sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list."
1/3/2011 4:23 AM
DNN Module Support
Joined: 8/28/2006
Posts: 2065
Re: Doesn not work wit GMAIL, Hotmail, etc.
(Australia)
This is a function of the mail server you are using. If you want to send to a gmail, hotmail or similar account, and you are saying that you are from those servers (send from) being part of those. Then you can only do this by setting that mail server as the DNN host mail server.
Otherwise there is no way around this, as their mail servers are smart enough to know their own servers.
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